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Getting assessed update

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:41 am
by Jen
Hiya,

Just to give you a update. My assessment is on Wednesday, I have been sent 2 questionairs to complete there not what I expecded. One of them is called attention difficulties check list and after I read I thought you have already met me then. I'm getting a friend to help me complete it because I'm not able to judge between mild, moderate and severe.
I have told 2 friends I'm getting assessed both supportive but both perceve my difficulties differently from me, one thinks I'm dyspraxic the other doesn't understand it.
It was my sister who first thoght I was dyspraxic and more I read the more agreed. Sometimes I think I making a fuss over nothing.
Sorry to waffle on, just needing to tell people feelings.

Re: Getting assessed update

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:12 am
by Lithium_joe
My guess is the attention difficulties questionnaire is there to discriminate between other cognitive disorders and what help they can provide you with.

Dyspraxia is a recognised condition on the spectrum of learning difficulties, this is a blessing because you'll find all our symptoms are similar but heterogeneous, so my dyspraxia is similar to Pooky's as they are to you, but none of us will be exactly alike in the same way that someone with measles always has red spots.

The problem, if I can put it that way, for assessors is that a true spectrum of need means two people with different diagnosis can display similar symptoms or require similar approaches so trying to sort out cognitive disorder by need isn't about checking off boxes so much as it is about diagnosing which areas of difficulty you experience problems with.

Eg. For example: ADHD and Dysprxia are common in that both typically demonstrate weak short term memory.

You may not have a problem with your short term memory - but suppose you did, approaches which help ADHD suffers remain on task and focus may help you to because although your diagnosis may differ your prognosis may match.

I have a particular problem with grammar and sentence structuring, unless I'm really concentrating like I am doing now, construction proper sentences are a matter of conjecture.
I was told dyslexia support would be of benefit because I would have access to writing support software, mind maps and a support tutor. So even though I am not dyslexic, I was funded to receive dyslexia support.

Hope that helps and good luck.

LJ.

Re: Getting assessed update

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:39 pm
by Jen
Hiya,
Thanks for your reply, it does help, Is a ok to clarfy? 2 people with dyspraxia can have problems with simalar things but have different difficulties?

Yes I do have short term memory problems mhich could be dspraxia or ADHD but help for ADHD coulkd help with my dysp[raxia problems?

Thanks

Re: Getting assessed update

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:24 am
by Lucy_Rush
yeah - people with dyspraxia dont all have exactly the same difficulties. they have similar difficulties / may have problems in similar area, but since everyone is different, people are afected in different ways.

so like, i have the bigest problems with concentration, and my memory which is ridiculously awful. i have other problems like co-ordination etc, but the fact i can juggle probably shows its not one of my greatest problems. whereas my dyspraxic mother doesnt have the same problems with concentration at all. but then she has difficulties in other areas to me.

like lj i also get dyslexia support at uni. i'm not actually dyslexic though, my dyspraxia report says i have dyslexic difficulties, but am not dyslexic as such. its just one of the areas i am more affected in. whereas other dyspraxic relatives dont have have these problems.

because it is a spectrum everyone can have different difficulties, although they will be in a similar set of areas.

Re: Getting assessed update

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:30 pm
by Lithium_joe
Hi Jen.

You've got it. :grin:

The idea of the spectrum is really interesting because it means there is no 'normal'.

Taking short-term memory as an example:

Everyone is on the spectrum somewhere, and everyone forgets things from time to time: they are not dyspraxic.
Amnesiacs forget things all the time: they are not dyspraxic.
Dyspraxics can have weak short term memories. These means on the spectrum different people can all say "I do that too!" but only in a few are there other areas where they say "I find that hard." and only in people where it is disabling is where "it" becomes an impediment to what you do, study, drive, etc.

Our dyspraxia gives us a variety of cognitive* problems, weak short-term memory being one, poor co-ordiation being the the typical and most well-known, but the example of Lucy and her mother is a good one. both have dyspraxia, but each experiences it differently as impairment of concentration or co-ordination skills. So dyspraxia affects different people differently. That makes it harder to diagnose. But what you can say is that on the spectrum each of our difficulties indicates dyspraxia but not all of us will share the same areas of difficulty.

The developmental history and questionnaires help demonstrate to the assessor why your problems may be dyspraxia because the problems will show through in all areas where you have difficulty and that it's not just poor balance or poor memory or poor co-ordination which might indicatesomethign else but it is the total sum: confusing left and right, missing developmental stages, struggling to learn to write or ride a bike or retain information: all these things point to a learning disorder but if you don't have problems reading it's probably not dyslexia**.

And on the day, you're dyspraxia if that's what it is will show through because we can't help but be dyspraxic, it's how our brains are wired and process information. What we do is find ways to cope with that but it's not like we're faking it and the combination of the background history and tests performed during assessment give a picture of how you process information and control your body and that is what diagnoses dyspraxia rather than some other condition that may overlap with similar symptoms.

LJ. :banana:

Cognitive * - I starred cognitive because I was advised by my O.T that it is preferably when describing how learning disorders affect the mind and ways of thinking than using terms which might carry pejorative implications like 'mental'

It's good advice because as I've grown older, my physical symptoms have lessened but it's the cognitive co-ordination than remains a problem hence why structuring my writing is hard, it's no longer about holding a pen, which I can now do, it's about how my brain processes information. And it's still dyspraxia.

"probably not dyslexia" ** - remember this is a spectrum of difficulty, so someone with dyspraxia may have problems writing as dyslexics do, but the problem is not an inability to process the letters, it's an inability to correctly handle the writing down of what's in mind. Which is why dyspraxics can receive dyslexia support to help them, because in essence the two conditions over-lap.

Re: Getting assessed update

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:24 pm
by Jen
Thanks for your help, i will let you know how are get on. :)