Being compared to being on drugs

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Ram wrote:
Dan wrote:
I would argue that weed is definitely less harmful than alcohol in moderation based on my own experience, although moderate alcohol use is actually perfectly healthy on the whole. The primary concern with weed is that if people have latent schizophrenia, it can exacerbate symptoms, but I would much rather somebody smoked weed every few days than drank moderately every few days in terms of the impact on well-being long-term. This is generally accepted even amongst the medical community I think, but obviously it is better not to take any drugs at all.

One qualitative way in which weed is better than alcohol is that weed can really spark creativity, and one actually remembers a lot of what happens to them on weed the next day, whereas even moderate drinking can really destroy our memories of events. Weed definitely makes our memory poorer when we're on it, but not to the same extent. This is more of a psychological point than anything, but I feel that it is better that we are able to remember most of the events in our leisure time.
I always thought that people who drank very modest amounts of alcohol (I.e. five units or less week) were supposed to be healthier than teetotalers according to medical research. Maybe this information is out of date. From a subjective point of view, I have never felt even moderate intake of alcohol does me much good. I find it extremely energy depleting for starters!

I've never used weed even though I tentatively support its legalzation, so I can't comment on its creativity inducing properties but I have heard about this before.
Small amounts of alcohol drinking are supposed to increase life expectancy, yeah, but I was talking about something like 15 units a week in that example. :)
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Re: Being compared to being on drugs

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Dan wrote: Small amounts of alcohol drinking are supposed to increase life expectancy, yeah, but I was talking about something like 15 units a week in that example. :)
I suppose the problem is that words like moderate are a bit vague unless they are qualified by a number. I've made up a rather crude table of what constitutes light, moderate, heavy and very heavy alcohol and cigarette consumption, togther with the health ramifications for alcohol and cigarette users at each level. If you added a column for weed that is based on the number of joints smoked per week, how would it look?


Light to Moderate Alcohol: 1-14 units / week NOT HARMFUL/MAYBE BENEFICIAL

Light to Moderate Cigarettes:1-9 / day SOMEWHAT HARMFUL


Moderate to Heavy Alcohol: 15-35 units/week SOMEWHAT HARMFUL

Moderate to Heavy Cigarettes: 10-20 / day HARMFUL

Heavy Alcohol: 36 - 50 units /week VERY HARMFUL

Heavy Cigarettes:21-40 / day VERY HARMFUL

Very Heavy Alcohol: 50+ units per week LIKELY TO DIE YOUNG

Very Heavy Cigarettes: 40 +per day LIKELY TO DIE YOUNG
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Re: Being compared to being on drugs

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Ram wrote:
Dan wrote: Small amounts of alcohol drinking are supposed to increase life expectancy, yeah, but I was talking about something like 15 units a week in that example. :)
I suppose the problem is that words like moderate are a bit vague unless they are qualified by a number. I've made up a rather crude table of what constitutes light, moderate, heavy and very heavy alcohol and cigarette consumption, togther with the health ramifications for alcohol and cigarette users at each level. If you added a column for weed that is based on the number of joints smoked per week, how would it look?


Light to Moderate Alcohol: 1-14 units / week NOT HARMFUL/MAYBE BENEFICIAL

Light to Moderate Cigarettes:1-9 / day SOMEWHAT HARMFUL


Moderate to Heavy Alcohol: 15-35 units/week SOMEWHAT HARMFUL

Moderate to Heavy Cigarettes: 10-20 / day HARMFUL

Heavy Alcohol: 36 - 50 units /week VERY HARMFUL

Heavy Cigarettes:21-40 / day VERY HARMFUL

Very Heavy Alcohol: 50+ units per week LIKELY TO DIE YOUNG

Very Heavy Cigarettes: 40 +per day LIKELY TO DIE YOUNG
Well, it's difficult to be as accurate with weed smoking, due to the fact some people smoke with bongs and use differing amounts of weed in their joints, but it would only go up to 'SOMEWHAT HARMFUL' with extremely heavy use, which is the main difference between weed and alcohol/cigarettes. :)
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back in the 90's I was allergic to the preservative ( a mercury derivative) they used to put in contact lens solution. My eyes were always bloodshot, and people I worked with used to insinuate that I was a pot smoker. The truth is I don't smoke or drink. I have enough problems. I don't need any substances to give me any more problems than I already have.
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Cannabis is rather prospective stuff as it has a great potential of use in medicine and pharmacology. For now, it’s completely legalized in 20 states for applying for medical purposes while in 7 states like Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Colorado, California, Massachusetts, and Nevada, and that’s 20 % of the population of the USA, it’s legalized for recreational purposes usage. It’s being predicted, according to the Guardian research, that cannabis will be legalized in all states by 2024 for medical purposes usage.
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Please note the .UK domain of this site!

While I do have some sympathy for those who derive benefit /relief from painful and/or debilitating conditions, does legitimising organised criminals who supply it and/or ignoring it's potential dangers with regard the detrimental effect it has on the mental health of some who use/overuse it. Is it that good an idea if you take full account of negative aspects vs the positive?
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Cannabis is rather prospective stuff as it has a great potential of use in medicine and pharmacology. For now, it’s completely legalized in 20 states for applying for medical purposes while in 7 states like Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Colorado, California, Massachusetts, and Nevada, and that’s 20 % of the population of the USA, it’s legalized for recreational purposes usage. It’s being predicted, according to the Guardian research, that cannabis will be legalized in all states by 2024 for medical purposes usage. Btw, there are two types of cannabis: cannabis with THC ( tetrahydrocannabinol, a psychoactive substance that invokes an altered state of consciousness) and CBD oil or CBN ( cannabinol ), which aren’t psychoactive substances. And CBD, as well as CBN, are used as a treatment for nicotine addiction. As I was a heavy smoker for 10 years, it helped me all the same because of which I was extremely surprised. For now, I mostly use CBD oil or CBD with CBN in form of sweets, which I pick up at REMOVED mixing business with pleasure if one may say so.
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