Dyspraxia vs. Aspergers

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Re: Dyspraxia vs. Aspergers

Post by JohanMidas »

I think it's possible for dyslexia+dyspraxia to lead to autism-like deficits in social interaction but for different reasons.

For someone with some kind of autism, picking up social subtexts/gists can be difficult: The information is heard/processed correctly but interpreted incorrectly.

For someone with dyspraxia+dyslexia, picking up the details can be difficult. There are added challenges with phonological processing, keeping track of a conversation in a noisy environment, recalling information for use in a conversation, remembering names and so on: all things that involve converting between sounds and meanings. It's all a bit slower and more liable to error. Less information is heard/processed correctly, but when it is the interpretation is usually fine, or even better than fine.
So, for autism the problem is at stage two, but for something like dyslexia+dyspraxia it's stage one.
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Re: Dyspraxia vs. Aspergers

Post by Merlinda »

Tom fod wrote:To anyone reading this threading and feeling a bit panicky . . . I would urge a degree of caution here!

While I'm not an educational psychologist, I think assigning labels to ourselves is bad as we do tend to be all too good at using them as a stick to whack ourselves. I think we do the 'What's wrong with me' too much and it just makes us feel bad!

In my view, it's even worse if it's someone else's judgement of us from a limited knowledge-base. From my reading of the whole thread from when it started, it seems that not even all the professionals agree on categorisation. I'm not saying don't explore by reading about these other difficulties/disabilities, just consider whether you ought to seek a professional opinion if you believe another diagnosis is appropriate or will help you.
I'm so grateful for this point. I mean, I'm here because I'm desperately searching for the answer to the lifelong 'what is wrong with me' quest.

I got diagnosed with dyspraxia at 24, in the midst of utter crisis while studying. My sister is dyspraxic, diagnosed in secondary school. It had never been thought of me because I'm not overtly clumsy or having motor coordination difficulties. My diagnosis didn't really help as it was at a late stage in my education! Just as Tom fod says, (yet) another stick I have used to beat myself.

I few years ago I was drunk in a bar, I reacted sensitively to something that was said, the person to whom I'd responded sensitively to queried whether I was on the spectrum. Well that did not go down well, and the night ended very badly for me. I just want to say that I'm not intending to stigmatise ASD's, but this caused me significant unrest because I have such a weak sense of my own identity and in this (albeit) weak sense of self, I see myself as having a strong capacity to empathise, so this suggestion rocked my boat somewhat.

I tend to rely on my communication abilities, despite life's setbacks. I've always worked in customer service and people supporting roles. I fluctuate between being socially outgoing conversely introverted and isolating myself. I suppose I really see my introverted-ness and tendency to isolate as being symptomatic of my low self esteem and lack of assertiveness. This means that someone suggesting that something (else) is 'wrong' with me naturally feeds into my 'what is wrong with me' quest, yielding confusing results and more anxiety and confusion.

It was often speculated within the family that my dad was in the spectrum, undiagnosed. There's an interesting area of research in its infancy on the consequences for 'neuro-typical' children who grew up with aspie parents (see: http://www.empowher.com/asperger039s-sy ... n?page=0,2). This rings true for me, but also results in more confusion as I'm not a NT, and my underlying anxiety that I may one day discover that I am on the spectrum myself.

I guess I believe that neurological differences are grouped and described as ND conditions, but they're just neurological differences at the end of the day, clusters of traits and presentations. The moving of diagnostic goalposts, differences of opinion/approach among practitioners and ever evolving research often fails to lead one to an answer. The more I read about different conditions and diagnostics online, the more I can self diagnose and alienate myself, find hypothesise for my differentness. It doesn't really get me anywhere!
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