dyspraxia & depression

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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Hey Bonny,

Don't let it get you down - I 'came out' as Dyspraxia a year ago and realised there's nothing to fear.

A friend of mine described it as like putting your finger part way across the end of a flowing hose - you may not have all the abilities of a normal person, but those abilities you do have have more intensity. (If that makes sense) #-o

As in example, Dyspraxics are immensely creative. Our natural chaos allows us to see things other people don't, and our occasional autism makes us more intelligent than the average Joe.

Do go to a GP, but don't feel 'fake' - most Dyspraxics I've met are surrounded by chaos but are diamonds underneath. :D
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Defonatly go to your GP about it and if it dosent work with the one you ushalie go to then try again as they might not understand dyspraxicia. If it really dosent work then go see another GP untill it does - it should be ok but just don't give up accesing the help you need.

I sometimes feel like a 'fake' as well as my dyspraxicia is verry much hidden (even more so then others) as I am not affecected masivly by coradation difculities and that my dyspraxicia affects me menatly insted but that dosent mean that I dont have issues and need help.
Forantunalty when I went to the GP (after a number of times) I got the help I needed and the GP is on board with me so that really helps.
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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I find the worst times of my life, mentally, have been when im bored basically. Ive been seriously suicidal, just constantly pure anger and frustration like there was a burning feeling in my chest tryna get out. Almost like panic attacks that lasted hours, even my concept of what was around me was distorted, breaking things and wanting to hurt people constantly. Ive been through a lot which has hurt me and affected me but ive never actually dealt with them things so they sometimes come back to bite me.

Every occasion ive been through times like this, ive always got through them by a new passion or developing existing skills. My ultimate passion has always been the gym. Its a constant progression, getting bigger, better and stronger, plus the endorphins you get and all the frustration and anger you release. Nothing compares to the feeling i get during or after a workout. I put everything into it and it feels so good

What do other people do to deal with things?
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Hi kdt,

I do Gym too and used to do running, as it somehow mitigates the physical frustration of Dyspraxia by giving the brain something that it's relatively easy to do.

I have a few Dyspraxic friends who are similar - I think frustration with our bodies and the judgemental morons that persecute us can make us fairly angry with people generally. :evil:

As a way of mitigating this, Tai Chi and spiritual activities are quite good too as they channel our energy and stop us lashing out at others. However, this and gym are only one part of the puzzle...

Anyone else got any ideas on this?
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Magic_Lemur wrote:Hi kdt,

I do Gym too and used to do running, as it somehow mitigates the physical frustration of Dyspraxia by giving the brain something that it's relatively easy to do.

I have a few Dyspraxic friends who are similar - I think frustration with our bodies and the judgemental morons that persecute us can make us fairly angry with people generally. :evil:

As a way of mitigating this, Tai Chi and spiritual activities are quite good too as they channel our energy and stop us lashing out at others. However, this and gym are only one part of the puzzle...

Anyone else got any ideas on this?
What do you mean by the other part?
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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kdt2402 wrote: What do you mean by the other part?
Not sure yet - am still figuring that bit out... ;)
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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kdt2402 wrote: What do you mean by the other part?
Not sure yet - am still figuring that bit out... ;)
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When walking thru the jungle,..
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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I do have depression, and at times I do believe they go hand in hand. But I do not think that Dyspraxia can be the soul course of depression. For me, I can trace back my depression to when I was in secondary school and being bullied by my so called friends/classmates. This started at the end of the first year, and did not stop until after my GCSE. At one time late on, I actually gotten thrown out of a ground floor window.

For me, I learnt that the bullies liked it when they saw me crying, or showing a reaction to anything they did. In the end, I learnt to bottle it all up, if I wanted to cry I did not and just bottled it all up. After that if anything happened that I didn't like, that I wanted to cry etc I just bottled it all up. When My grandad died I never cried for him. Because I felt crying is an weakness.

It was not until stuff happening at work and at home, everything got too much for me to cope with and everything come out. I admitted to my Older Sister what was happening, how I was feeling etc and she got me in to see my GP. He has known me since I was a born, and my family well before that. And that would have been over 32+ years, so he knows everything about me, about my family and disability etc. He put me on to anti-depressions and asked me to see a colleague of his who specialised in depression within the clinic and so we want to see her.

Since then, I have been on anti-depressions to help me and I also go to see my private counsellor weekly. He has helped me a lot, but I still have not learn to cry in front of him or anybody else. That is a major hurdle for me, and he respects it. I have been through the good and bad times with him. Including when I had to put in an official complaint against one of my colleagues for harassment/bullying that lasted for months. In the end, it got up held but nothing could happen as it was classed an one off incident. So they got warned about it, and had to do other stuff too and keep an eye on. Lucky nothing else has happened since with them.

But I know at the moment my depression is really playing up because of work. Just like I posted in another thread getting advice from here.

I would recommend to go to your GP if you have got depression, if they do not listen the first time. Ask to see another one, until they listen to you and sit down with you to decided how best to take it forward. I have seen it first hand how it can effect you from my experiences, and when my older sister had a breakdown and got diagnosed with bioplor.

If you not sure about it, just post in here and I would say that I or one of the others would be more and then happy to share our experiences. The good and bad.

cap
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Can you tell me about the Dyspraxia?? i knew that it is deaseas, but please explain me whole information about it.....
What exactly do you want to know about it and we can help you understand it more.
Also what exactly is your background and what are you trying to find out on hear?
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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It makes sense that anxiety, frustration, low-esteem and depression should go along with dyspraxia. It's a seesaw battle- back and forth, up and down - dealing with a condition that just refuses to play fair even if you know what is going on. I've dealt with dyspraxia all my adult life (I''m 75) but had no idea my weird shortcomings were anything but character flaws up until about two months ago. I have also suffered from severe chronic depression since I was in my teens. During the last 16 years, with Prozac, my depression has been under control, and what I realize is that if you are severely depressed you are effectively paralyzed; you can't deal with anything. As an elderly warrior I can't say too strongly that you simply must deal with your depression. See a therapist, get on an anti-depressant that agrees with you, and reclaim your emotional life. Learn to laugh, especially at yourself. As far as I can see, a dyspraxic who can't laugh at himself is in for an awful lot of unnecessary woe.
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Re: dyspraxia & depression- facts & advice

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DYSPRAXIA, & Dylexia often labelled : 'Learning 'disability'...
The word 'disability' can already impose many complexes and emotional conflicts of : #-o

-inadequacy & inferiority (thinking something is wrong with you).
- feeling alien to everyone else - because they can get on automatically
- confused about ones identity, self purpose, self-ability
- a plunge of self confidence, low self esteem - thinking your worthless, negative thoughts
- the urge to defend ones self because of insecurities
- lack of self-reliance, lack of self trust,
- hopelessness, unmotivated,
- depression...
- frustration,
- frequent confusion!! etc.


These can be said as frequent & natural initial feelings that come with the: :ball:

-constant forgetting of things,
- feeling judged and ridiculed by other people
- feeling like you let others down, and let yourself down
- frustrated
- feeling embarassed

- and it often feels repetitive throughout life...

These can lead to: :-({|=

- Feeling like only a few people understand you :*(
- being able to be emotionally only around certain people as they may not understand your emotional sensitivities and insecurities & more importantly - YOUR FREQUENT FORGETTING! - (Some think you just don't care enough!)
- Iscolating yourself.
- losing motivation and feeling of productvity
- falling behind on academic work
- doubting your own judgement :|
- feeling overwhelmed with life,
:-({|=
We've been through it all. It sounds like pretty depressing stuff: but there is so much overlooked opportunity and talent that comes with Dyspraxia & Dyslexia.
We see so much advice but it is mainly through our own experiences that we grow, learn and become experts - even more so than those who have never had the opportunity as much. =D>


TIP 1. Training yourself to train. ](*,)
-Imagine yourself as the boxer in the ring. Every real fight symbolises the 'tests' that we feel thrown upon us in life, whether its trying to meet a deadline, arriving for an appointment, being organised, preparing for events, being prepared for disaster etc. 8-[

-You must use your gifted creativity (as dyspraxic you have plenty of it! So use it!) :) to come up with a plan (Yes thats right a PLAN, It might take you a while, but add colours, pictures, and you'll come up with a fantastic plan).

-The idea is that you must train yourself to deal with life's blows (time management, organisation, preparation)
Yes I know it is what we find challenging, but it is only by DOING and DOING and DOING and DOING that you Build the automaticity in your brain to plan! :?:



It is the often the inability to automatically think ahead, plan and organise information together in the brain, (which can affect motor skills/movement) which pulls us back - because our creativity has a challenge of being channeled into action!

As many of you have experienced (many being experiential learners,learning from many mistakes & catastrophies!) You can get better if you practice, train yourself, direct yourself, Learn about yourself.
Come up with your own training program:

Measure our performance with line graphs, bar charts, priority triangles,
And if you meet the top priotities on your triangle move yourself up a notch on your aily line graph - measure your performance during the week.

Find pictures of super-duper organisation that is colourful & creative! Because when dyspraxics or dyslexics choose to get organised - They go all the way!! (because they HAVE to, to make their life work!)

Get imaginative! :boxedin: get creative!! Don't beat yourself up about what happened on the bus today, ](*,) or forgetting this or that - beating yourself up makes it worse! [-X Believe that you can train your brain, you can train yourself - and make your experience worthwhile to help others. \:D/ Experiential learners are a strength to society, they allow others to see things clearly that many others do not. (And this is because they make the extra effort because THEY often get confused. :Eek:

That is all I will write for now, probably babbled on a bit. Trust yourself, trust god or the universe, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel - you don't realise until you've been through it yourself.
I have organisational dyspraxia, my memory needs extra support, planning takes a while, and organising is a challenge, the emotional baggage that come with it isn't easy to deal with but It will teach you a lot, make you resilient & determined - and as long as someone is determined in life, that is all they need to be successful.
Good luck with your life-building, Make us dyspraxics proud! xxx
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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Whether there is a provable clinical link between dyspraxia and depression I do not know, I do suspect that dyspraxics are susceptible to depression though.

Even at the best of times I find that my dyspraxia is a relentless assault on my confidence and self esteem so naturally it's easy to feel depressed. I've never thought to talk to a psychologist let alone a psychiatrist about it though which is quite ironic since I actually work In a mental health setting!

Though working there gives me some insight, I'd rather not get institutionised especially when I'm fully capable of supporting myself without assistance. I have a mistrust of psychiatrists and to some extent psychologists because I sense that they aren't very good at listening and can actually be quite dismisve of completely valid views from nurses, assistants and even patients usually because ultimately they think they're better and ofcourse very fond of their own analysis.

I also see how easy it is to get dependant on anti-depressants, how addictive some of the drugs are and some of the horrible side affects that some have. So here's hoping that I aren't deluded, I'm staying away from that for my own sense of sanity =P~

I find it very important to know yourself. My life experiences have been valuable and they've taught me a great deal about myself. I know very well my own capabilities many of which are very good yet I also know my limitations and not to exceed them. I know what makes me happy and the importance of being able to do them in order to balance out your mental health.

Unfortunately I'm unable to many of the physical things I like doing due to a neck/shoulder injury I've had for a couple of years which has been very reluctant to heal and affects my mobility and comfort. It puts me off doing the physical exercise which I believe is important to keep me fit and happy, so in that case it's easy to get fed up, disillusioned, demotivated and dare I say it? Depressesd.
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Re: dyspraxia & depression

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I think you're so right about knowing yourself. It's very important. I have been suffering from depression on and off for the last 18 years or so, but the positive news is, since I've found out about dyspraxia things make a lot more sense, and strangely enough I feel less depressed and more able to cope. I think part of the depression is years of being bullied, and being told "well if you just tried a bit hard, or concentrated more, you'd be able to do these things".

I think it's very important not to beat yourself up (although I don't always take my own advice!) After all, if you had any other condition/disability you probably wouldn't. I think part of it is that it's not recognised by everybody and people think you're just making an excuse when you can't do things. If I had a pound for every time I've been told "you've just got to get on with things" or "you just need to try harder" I'd be very rich by now!

This website is great though, I think it really helps to speak with like-minded people. I also see that there are great gifts involved in being dyspraxic a lot of the time - a sensitivity to other people with special needs, understanding and patience, and also creativity, being able to think about things in a different way.

Anyway, I wish everybody well who has depression, because it's a horrible thing, in a way I think probably worse than the original dyspraxia! After all it doesn't help concentration and positive thinking. Although I think positive thinking is a bit of double-edged sword. It's all very well being positive, and we don't want to be too negative, but sometimes you do have to accept that you can't do certain things, or that they will take you longer. No could being wildly optimistic. It's getting a balance, because obviously we don't want to be too negative, but I find when I'm more realistic I actually achieve more and feel less confused. If I set my targets too high, I get disappointed. I suppose it's finding what works for you yourself though.
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