Dyspraxia and Verbal Intelligence.

[Henri]

Hello everyone,

I am just wondering whether you think there may be a correlation between Dyspraxia - or any related disorders - and verbal intelligence. Intelligence can, and is, accurately categorised using two conceptualisations of IQ: verbal IQ and performance IQ. People who score strongly on their performance IQ are often good at subjects such as mathematics, natural sciences, and engineering; when choosing careers, they often follow suite and become engineers, natural scientists, computer scientists, and other occupations which require strong mathematical ability. In contrast, people with high verbal IQ excel at subjects such as English, History, and the Social Sciences; they are good at conceptual and analytical logic. They capitalise on this in their choice of career, often going into Politics, Journalism, Law, or Advertising.

The difference between the two types of intelligence should, by now, be obvious. Now I am proposing the idea that Dyspraxia may affect, possibly at the developmental level, these two types of intelligence. Many Dyspraxic people are excellent writers, and are able to think about concepts and theories in a creative and dynamic way. One clear example is the prodigious writer, Victoria Biggs. When I was undergoing testing, I was in the 98th percentile on verbal ability, and I know of many other Dyspraxic people who scored similarly. There may be some sort of link here.

What is your opinion?

[Catwoman42]

I am very good at english, social sciences, words and am very articulate. Maths, numbers, chemistry? Awful

[Evasura]

ace for humanistic subjects and languages (I did classics with really good grades) but I dropped Maths and physics after Y10 (one can do it in Spain, where I went to sch). Really poor grades and never pased a single test on physics. Just thinking about numbers and formulae makes me anxious

[Osymandus]

When i was tested , i was told i was in the top 1% of my age group for VI. So it may well be a link ? However its teh retention of specific information that I and i believe others are inclined to . So learning other disciplines appears to be far harder, then for NT people .

Ive alwasy been interested in philosophies , theologies and esoteric maters so who knows

[Alice]

I can't remember the exact numbers, but there's 96/97 percentiles difference between my processing speed and my verbal reasoning.

Guess which one was which...

[Captain_Ludd]

Hmm, as usual looks like I'm the odd one out

I also have a VI in the 99th percentile but a low performance IQ (42nd Percentile, let down by my sequential memory again )
I LOVE science, tech, and engineering, (Currently In the second year of a Computing Science degree and loving it) but I have no artistic ability what so ever(wish I did though), and find the humanities and subjects that deal with "ethereal" subject matter leave me behind.
Maths is a real weak point for me too though I transferred from electronic engineering to CS despite getting the second highest grade in my year cos I found out there was a whole year of engineering maths coming up, thats not education its punishment! .

[conor]

I think Im intelligent,but you wouldnt see it in a iq test,which is annoying...

[Captain_Ludd]

Ah, dont worry about iq tests there only there to try and pigeon hole people, some of the smartest people I know iq wise are some of the dumbest in real world situations.

[Avarice]

It's well known that a big variation between verbal and performance tests can skew the results which is why I have little time for the poor relation of the medical profession (psychologists) who when they tell you that despite these issues your "university material" when (in my experience) it comes to application in the real world they are full of disingeneous and dangerous bull.

So when you've got a degree it's like having a shiny sports car that dosen't have an ignition key while others are allowed to accelarate away in theirs.

[Osymandus]

It's well known that a big variation between verbal and performance tests can skew the results which is why I have little time for the poor relation of the medical profession (psychologists) who when they tell you that despite these issues your "university material" when (in my experience) it comes to application in the real world they are full of disingeneous and dangerous bull.

So when you've got a degree it's like having a shiny sports car that dosen't have an ignition key while others are allowed to accelerate away in theirs.

That's not the failing of teh Psychological professions , that is the failing of the so called "real world" . Its mechanistic view point , narrow short views , infantile want want want attitude , with out discipline or balance .

No one and i mean no one can quantifies absolutely what intelligence is (i refer the learned ladies and gents to the work of top neuroscience Dr David Eagleman), repetitive, regurgitation of facts , is not pure intelligence , creative artistic interpretation is intelligence . The real world wants repeatable results in the empirical sense of the word , sadly it believes human nature and intelligence can be created and formed like this . So maitain their idea of what they believe is this great concept we must follow , and if you cant fit that model you are a waste .

Sports cars a lovely to look at , crap milage and cant take knocks or damage , can't off road and become useless in the wet . Me ill stick to being an ATV , at least i can when the Dakha or at least have the choice to create my own path and not stick to someone elses roads.

[peterkeegan]

Good at Chemistry, Physics, Maths, Geography, Stats, sometimes IT etc poor at English, writing academic assignments etc