any help me about chatting 2 women

[ALEX2525]

does any 1 no how 2 chat 2 gilrs as not that good as i can chat but no further then that do u no what i mean. thank

[rhyds]

The first thing to do is NOT TO PANIC , then it's a case of simply going up and striking up a conversation about this or that. If it comes to nowt then simply move on. It's all a case of having some confidence in yourself*


*I am by no means an expert....

[Daniel]

A good start is always identifying an area of common interest. Boring them to death by waffling about about something they find deathly dull should naturally be avoided. If you see their eyes glazing over, then look at changing the topic.

Being able to make a girl laugh can also go a long way. Obviously be careful with the sort of humour you use, and ideally tailor it to the person's personality.

Try to help yourself by not trying to converse in surrounds you find difficult. For instance many dyspraxics find it tricky to chat in places where there's a lot of background noise. Try to avoid such places if you do find this difficult, as asking the other person to repeat themselves or not hearing what they say really isn't going to help.

Dan.

[chloe]

As a woman the things that do it for me.
Smile- genuinely and gently
eye contact is important but not so she feels undressed by your eyes,or that she is under interrogation.Look at her eyes and not her t*ts( well look but don't stare or try to talk to her t*ts)
Relax- remember you are an interesting person and probably quite a catch
and don't forget to breathe -oh make sure your teeth -and clothes etc are clean
Without turning it into an interrogation, ask the woman something about herself interests, where she lives, what work she does and try to pick up a thread that interests you and add something to the conversation.
If something funny happenned to you that day tell her.
Be interested in what she says- fake it till you make it!!!
Crack a few jokes- I am always flattered by flirty comments -
Make sure you don't give the impression that you are after marriage, babies and lifetime commitments but that you are up for some fun.Don't go on about the government.
Ask how are you?
Would you like?
Secretly a lot of women still go for the romantic gestures and being given attention.W el ove being pampered.
Be old fashioned in your approach it works better in the long run-but not chauvinistic.
Be yourself
Practice as often as you can- even if it means having a go in front of the mirror!!!-if it brings you what you want
incidentally for what it's worth I would guess my hubby did- does about half of these things and it worked.
a bit of physical touch- on her arm etc but read the vibes from her- echo her body language
Chloe
If all else fails tell her your dick is 8" or ask her if she would like a- - - - -only joking!!!!

[Little Miss Anxious]

just be yourself, talk about life and tell a joke. We woman love jokes.

[WTCCFan]

just be yourself, talk about life and tell a joke. We woman love jokes.

Us men, we hear all the time about how we ought to talk to women about stuff. Though on what subject I am not sure about. But we hear all the time about jokes. Amd that is what worries me most.

What type? Their seems to be two main acceptable types (obviously the like told by Bernard Manning was un-pc). One is the type told by popular stand-up comedians of the past and present and the other can make something funny out of any scene. Both take a level of quick wit I think I am not, like many men probably, capable of.

On another note. What about credibility? If a guy can give a girl further "credibility" in the eyes of her freinds and peers? Would that help a guy pull a woman?

[Little Miss Anxious]

I'm sorry guys I never heard of credibilty before but am women love being complimented on their looks and personality. Can any of ye men give me advise on how to understand men so I can make my relationship stronger...??? What should a women do to turn on a man in every way including her sex life? If a man has his phone off for 3days and I know he suffers from depression, what should I do and how should I behave? wb

[Liz944]

If his depression is bad, and he has his phone off. Chances are he is not feeling that grate and probably does not feel well enough to talk to anyone....

I would leave it, and let him phone me when he is feeling better.... and not to panic it could be a while for him to get out of the depression (feeling bad from depression is not a quick fix)

[WTCCFan]

I'm sorry guys I never heard of credibilty before.......

Credibility is basically how your freinds and peers see you. In other words "reputation". I think. What if a guy is so bad as decent boyfriend material (if he isn't good looking, if he isn't sexy, if he isn't rich, if he isn't cool, if he isn't talented and if he isn't succesfull) that he causes his girlfiends mates to turn their backs on her because the hate him that much? If that is the best she can do why stay with her as friends. They want someone that reflects well on them not someone like him.

Would a girl want a guy who does that to her? Would it matter?

It is just for all this talk about "talking about stuff" and "having a sense of humour" is all very well and fine but half the problem that men have about approaching women is that they don't have a high opinion of themselves. And because they don't have a high opinion of themselves they may tend to think other women will see their failings too and won't also have a high opinion of them either. I don't think a woman would have a high opinion of me either when I think I am unattractive, uncool, untalented and unsuccesful.

Can any of ye men give me advise on how to understand men so I can make my relationship stronger...??? What should a women do to turn on a man in every way including her sex life? If a man has his phone off for 3days and I know he suffers from depression, what should I do and how should I behave? wb

My advice would be the same as Liz. Just let him be. I don't know if theirs owt you can do in all honesty. Depression is a serious thing. Marked by feelings of such things as hopelessness. But I don't think a nice "thinking of you" card would go amiss. What do others say?

[Little Miss Anxious]

Thanks Liz. Are you telling me to dump him WCCT or whoever said to just let him be??? I got a text from his sister yesterday saying he forgot his charger and that he is staying with his gran. Judging from what he told me he has had depression since he was 14 and after a while it got very bad because of bad experiences as a teenager which I won't go into. He lost a girlfriend who was hooked on ad drug, was betrayed by his cousion who cheated on him with his girlfriend and offered her the drug and put him in danger and died later after them having a huge fallout. A manipulative flat mate who is very tempramental who was my boyfriends blood brother who took advantage of our kindness and frienship who introduced me to my recent boyfriend, yeah he was a very good friend of mine and we were kind of lovers before I met my recent boyfriend, anyway he still wanted to have sex with me and kiss me on the sly when my boyfriend was away Even though he said he didn't want to be with me . My boyfriend lost a great uncle in war, Max the dog who was his best friend and he has no income as results relating to leaving a course in sligo because he didn't feel safe in Sligo town coz of guys about a dog who I won't mention and we had no car to drive there if we got a place outside sligo town. He hasn't stopped the drink yet and text me once recently ("I miss you and I miss your warmth beside me. "I dear I'm gonna lose you because of my illness. "I love you and I wish you were here! goodnight.xxx.) What are comments to that text message he sent me??? WB

[WTCCFan]

Are you telling me to dump him WCCT or whoever said to just let him be???

Oh no Amy! Far from it. When I say "let him be" I just mean to leave him alone for a bit. He has been through a hell of an experience that frankly I never knew could be experienced. I don't know what to say as when you see folk suffer from depression you see them literally teeter on the edge of an emotional cliff. I think you have to be so darn careful with loved ones who suffer from depression about not saying the wrong thing; things that will make them worse.

Have you contacted a GP? I have sent a link to articles on "Depression" on MSN Encarta and netdoctor. Their doesn't seem to be a main despression website but I have seen te netdoctor article and you will like it. The MSN article I know of because I printed it of for my father who "has it" (and I like the MSN anyway) But in truth he is just faking it like the ridiculous baby he is. I think he is just "run down" meself. He has a bad back at the moment and for a bit he thought it was a trapped nerve because a neighbour of ours who used to run with him at the South Shields Harriers in the 80's had it. But the x-ray he hadsuggested he has the start of arthiritis. An MRI scan will detect much more but almost straight away, when he came back, he stated going on about having depression having not talked once about it before. I think he is something of a hypocondriac. But your b/friend is the one suffering from depression "genuinely".

http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_ ... logy).html
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/depression/index.shtml

Good luck with them Amy.

[Little Miss Anxious]

Thanks very much WTT but I think he wants to split with me. I text his sister a few times yesterday and before asking What he said he said to her before he went to his grans and told her it was important. I sent that text to her twise and not long after my boyfriend rings me acting pissed off saying "Now you have really ***** off I cant go two days without you hassling me and didn't I tell you 3times not to contact my family under any circumstances which is what you just did! "my sister is very ill and you have just upset her! " I don't need anyone to make me happy! "If anyone has put me into a bad mood its you! " I have a problem with everything about you, everything about you annoys me! "Why don't you just leave me alone and not bother me again, don't ever ring me or text me again! " I don't want you to come down to Mayo untill I am on my new course and am earning money! I don't want to be in a relationship with anyone right now! "Why don't you go and find someone else! "I don't want to be with a person who is very concerned about me! "I bet Gary is there and there must be something going on with you too "Gary is a very good close friend of mine and want us to just be friends no more and he is trying to keep Alex my boyfriend and I together and happy. He loves both of us as a friend. Anyway towards the end of the conversation he said "Im thinking of breaking up with you at the moment! "I don't know what I want! "I need a few days or a while to cool off and I will think about it! dont contact me untill I contact you!" I said fine even though I sent a letter to him in the post before I got his phone call and I text him after the phone call trying to remind him of all the good things I have done for him and another text remindind him that I remember all the things he done for me and I wrote a list about them. Whats gonna happen now and what do I do? I stoped him from hating himself and self harming, I took a day off work when he was ill coz he asked me too, I have listened to his family asking me personal questions about Alexs depression and why did Alex self harm and they said we are soo happy that you managed to stop him from self harming and I don't know where he would be without you? his parents said. Alex and his parents and sister think very highly of me and see me as a part of their family and they are very fond of me. Im not going to go into to this but I gave Alex money to help keep him safe so guys could protect him after they get the cash, I cheered him up by hugging him and holding and comforting him when he was upset or felt low in his self and told me he didn't want to die, I sent him credit, Checked up on him on the phone to see if he is alright, Looked for out of town accommodation in Sligo for us even though he decided to stay in Mayo when I told him a woman is gong to help us find a place out of Sligo town and my instructor asked me to tell alex to come back to Sligo and I begged my instructor to keep paying him even though he was in mayo. He was working at home but I fond out that was only supposed to last for a few weeks untill we got accommodation. i gave him and his family gifts, Listened to him cry about his dog dying on the phone and I was being as understanding and compassionate as I could be.Alex wanted me to get a transfer for him to Mayo and whenever things went wrong he took his frustration out on me and said "I don't need your help and I don't want it! "I don't want to be happy you are not helping me at all with your saying! "I can come up with my own ideas! "what have you ever done for me! "I don't trust anyone in sligo except you. "Your mum is trying to control you and I am trying to encourage you to stand up to her! "My family love you like their own daughter and they really respect you! After that fallout he text me that message I put on the forum about how he whishes i was there???? Well before that he tried to ring me a couple of times when my phone was off a few hourse after that incident and text me - I love you I am very depressed. Wb

[Liz944]

From what you have just described I would leave the situation well alone and find someone else. Sounds like he is telling you loud and clear he does not want to be with you.... Sorry!

[WTCCFan]

From what you have just described I would leave the situation well alone and find someone else. Sounds like he is telling you loud and clear he does not want to be with you.... Sorry!

I am just worried Liz that his feelings are atleast in some small way motivated by his depression (something he has had since a teenager).

But IMHO I don't think it is worth persuing someone if that is how they feel because you will only see and hear more stuff like the texts he send Amy already. I don't know about you but I don't like hearing people talk to me like that.

[Little Miss Anxious]

WTCC fan I am very confused because I just got a text last night saying "How are you now? What does that mean? Any way I text back ok and he said was ok then I text him how his behaviour last nite made me feel and I haven't got a response back yet. What does that mean? I read depression on the web and it clearly set not to dump a person you love and he is kind to you and that you feel comfortable around because they need someone close and his family and psychiatrist see me as medicine to helping you getter better by my personality and it also said that depressed people can act very uncarring with their loved ones at times coz they are depressed but they don't mean it and you shouldn't believe it either. I fond out in a relationships forum that couples complaine about one other because they can't seem to find some extra time to spare for another and I know alex misses me alot and he got depressed over it a couple of times. I haven't seen him for nearly 5 or 6 weeks and he wants me down only when he earns money and is on his new course because he wants to treat me well and getting into the course may take months and months and there is something wrong with their car so his parents cant travel. His parents have one car amongst them. Wb